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Jennifer Pagonis: I'd like to really clarify that in fact, UNHCR does not do refugee status determination for North Koreans.
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Jennifer Pagonis: It's not necessary to go through that process, because the North Koreans already have a ready solution -- they can go to South Korea with citizenship rights.
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Jennifer Pagonis: If a North Korean does not want to go to South Korea, we can formally refer the case to a third resettlement country, such as the United States on humanitarian grounds. And then it's up to that third country to accept or reject the case.
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Jennifer Pagonis: Our role is simply often we may be asked to verify the nationality of these people, which we can assist with...
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Jennifer Pagonis: So if a case is rejected, for example, by the United Staes, that case is still eligible to go to South Korea.
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Jennifer Pagonis: I'd like to really clarify that in fact, UNHCR does not do refugee status determination for North Koreans.
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Jennifer Pagonis: It's not necessary to go through that process, because the North Koreans already have a ready solution -- they can go to South Korea with citizenship rights.
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Jennifer Pagonis: If a North Korean does not want to go to South Korea, we can formally refer the case to a third resettlement country, such as the United States on humanitarian grounds. And then it's up to that third country to accept or reject the case.
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Jennifer Pagonis: Our role is simply often we may be asked to verify the nationality of these people, which we can assist with...
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Jennifer Pagonis: So if a case is rejected, for example, by the United Staes, that case is still eligible to go to South Korea.
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