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[³ìÃë:·çºñ¿À ÀÇ¿ø] ¡°Anything is possible. I think they more certainly are influential over some of their decision making with regards to all of this. Ultimately, I think China probably wants to create a scenario where the only way a deal happens is China comes in brokers and make themselves indispensable. There biggest fear is probably that the US and North Korea work out a deal without China¡¯s involvement. So, it¡¯s possible that in fact maybe even likely that they play some roles in their recent behaviors¡±
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[³ìÃë:°¡µå³Ê ÀÇ¿ø] ¡°I¡¯ve always been worried about China¡¯s roles in this. I¡¯ve said before, years that China needs to do more when it comes to getting North Korea engaged in denuclearization. They continue to violate sanctions and they continue to allow cyber operators in North Korea and others. So, my concern about China¡¯s behaviors hasn¡¯t changed at all.¡±
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Áß±¹À» ºñ·ÔÇÑ ·¯½Ã¾ÆÀÇ ¿µÇâÀ¸·Î Á¦À縦 ÅëÇÑ ´ëºÏ ¾Ð¹ÚÀÌ ´À½¼ÇØÁø Á¡µµ ¹®Á¦·Î ÁöÀûµÆ½À´Ï´Ù. »ó¿ø ¿Ü±³À§¿Í ¹ý»çÀ§ ¼Ò¼ÓÀÎ Å©¸®½º Äコ ¹ÎÁÖ´ç ÀÇ¿øÀº À̳¯ VOA ±âÀÚ¿Í ¸¸³ª ´ëºÏ ¾Ð¹ÚÀÌ ´À½¼ÇØÁ³´Ù´Â Á¡Àº ÀÔÁõ °¡´ÉÇÑ »ç½ÇÀ̶ó¸ç, Áß±¹°ú ·¯½Ã¾ÆÀÇ ´ëºÏ ±³¿ªÀÌ ´Ã°í ÀÖ´Ù´Â Á¡À» ÀÌÀ¯·Î µé¾ú½À´Ï´Ù.
[³ìÃë:Äコ ÀÇ¿ø] ¡°Yes, demonstrable. I mean, I think China and Russia have said that they are increasing their trade with North Korea.¡±
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[³ìÃë:Äコ ÀÇ¿ø] ¡°I think when President Trump sat down with Kim Jong Un, he gave them a signal to loosen the pressure. So, he should¡¯ve not done so without a clear alignment of interests between the United States, China and Russia on what we are going to get accomplish with North Korea.¡±
Æ®·³ÇÁ ´ëÅë·ÉÀº ±èÁ¤Àº°ú ¸¶ÁÖ ¾ÉÀ½À¸·Î½á Áß±¹°ú ·¯½Ã¾Æ¿¡ ´ëºÏ ¾Ð¹ÚÀ» ´À½¼ÇÏ°Ô ¸¸µéµµ·Ï ½ÅÈ£¸¦ º¸³Â´Ù´Â °Ì´Ï´Ù. ±×·¯¸é¼ Æ®·³ÇÁ ´ëÅë·ÉÀº ºÏÇѰú °ü·ÃÇØ ¹«¾ùÀ» ¼ºÃëÇÒ °ÍÀÎÁö¿¡ °üÇÑ ¹Ì±¹, Áß±¹, ·¯½Ã¾Æ °£ ÀÌÀÍÀ» ¸íÈ®È÷ Á¶Á¤ÇÏÁö ¾ÊÀº ä ±èÁ¤Àº°ú ¸¶ÁÖ ¾ÉÁö ¸»¾Ò¾î¾ß Çß´Ù°í ¸»Çß½À´Ï´Ù.
Ž ¿ì´Þ ¹ÎÁÖ´ç »ó¿øÀÇ¿øÀº ½Ì°¡Æ÷¸£ ȸ´ãÀ» °è±â·Î ±èÁ¤ÀºÀÇ ¿ª³» ÁöÀ§°¡ ³ô¾ÆÁø °ÍÀÌ ´ëºÏ ¾Ð¹ÚÀ» °ÈÇÏ´Â µ¥ Àå¾Ö°¡ µÇ°í ÀÖ´Ù°í ÁöÀûÇß½À´Ï´Ù.
[³ìÃë:¿ì´Þ ÀÇ¿ø] ¡°What¡¯s happened is by President Trump doing what is done, he¡¯s raised the statue of Kim Jong Un enormously in the region and he¡¯s gotten nothing for it. So, I am very concerned that we are not driving a hard bar again and we are not doing what we should be doing.¡±
Æ®·³ÇÁ ´ëÅë·ÉÀº ½Ì°¡Æ÷¸£ ȸ´ã¿¡¼ ¾Æ¹« °Íµµ ¾òÀº °Í ¾øÀÌ ±èÁ¤ÀºÀÇ ÁöÀ§¸¦ ¾öû³ª°Ô ³ô¿©Áá´Ù¸ç, ÀÌ·Î ÀÎÇØ ¹Ì±¹Àº ¸¶¶¥È÷ ÇØ¾ß ÇÒ ÀÏÀε¥µµ ºÒ±¸Çϰí ÇöÀç ºÏÇÑÀ» °ÇÏ°Ô ¸ô¾ÆºÙÀÌÁö ¸øÇϰí ÀÖ¾î ¸Å¿ì ¿ì·ÁµÈ´Ù´Â °Ì´Ï´Ù. µñ ´õºó »ó¿ø ¹ÎÁÖ´ç ¿ø³»Ãѹ«´Â Áß±¹°úÀÇ °øÁ¶ ¾øÀÌ´Â ´À½¼ÇØÁø ´ëºÏ ¾Ð¹ÚÀ» ´Ã¸®±â À§ÇØ ¹Ì±¹ÀÌ ÇÒ ¼ö ÀÖ´Â ÀÏÀº °ÅÀÇ ¾ø´Ù°í ÁöÀûÇß½À´Ï´Ù.
[³ìÃë:´õºó ÀÇ¿ø] ¡°Without cooperation with China, there is very little that we can do.¡±
Áß±¹, ·¯½Ã¾Æ µî ±¹Á¦»çȸÀÇ ÇùÁ¶¸¦ À̲ø±â À§ÇØ ÀÇ¿øµéÀÌ Á¦½ÃÇÏ´Â ±¸Ã¼Àû Á¶Ä¡´Â ºÏÇѰú °Å·¡ÇÏ´Â Á¦3±¹ÀÇ °³ÀÎ, ±â¾÷¿¡ Á¦À縦 °¡ÇÏ´Â ¼¼ÄÁ´õ¸® º¸ÀÌÄàÀÔ´Ï´Ù.
[³ìÃë:°¡µå³Ê ÀÇ¿ø] ¡°I think we should continue to ratchet up sanctions on North Korea as well as anybody who is enabling North Korea including thousands of business in China who continue to do business with North Korea. Their petroleum exports continue to go to North Korea. Those should be embargoed. Those should be cut off. The more pressure we can put to bear on North Korea and its enabler, the more likely it is we will see success with denuclearization.¡±
°¡µå³Ê ÀÇ¿øÀº ºÏÇÑ»Ó ¾Æ´Ï¶ó ºÏÇѰú ¿©ÀüÈ÷ °Å·¡ÇÏ´Â Á¦3±¹ÀÇ Á¶·ÂÀڵ鿡 ´ëÇÑ Á¦À縦 °è¼Ó ´Ã·Á¾ß ÇÑ´Ù°í °Á¶Çß½À´Ï´Ù. ºÏÇѰú À̵éÀÇ Á¶·ÂÀÚ¿¡ ´ëÇÑ ¾Ð¹ÚÀ» ´Ã¸±¼ö·Ï ºÏÇÑÀÇ ºñÇÙȸ¦ ¼º°ø½Ãų °¡´É¼ºÀº ´õ¿í ³ô¾ÆÁø´Ù´Â °Ì´Ï´Ù.
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ÀϺΠÀÇ¿øµéÀº ÇÏÁö¸¸ ¹Ì±¹ÀÌ °æÁ¦Àû ¿µÇâ·ÂÀ» Ȱ¿ëÇØ ±¹Á¦»çȸÀÇ ÇùÁ¶¸¦ À̲ø¾î³»´Â Àü·«ÀÌ ´Ù¼Ò °á¿©µÆ´Ù°í ÁöÀûÇß½À´Ï´Ù. Äコ ÀÇ¿øÀº °ü¼¼ ºÎ°ú¿Í °°Àº ¹Ì±¹ÀÇ °æÁ¦Àû ¼ö´ÜÀ» ij³ª´Ù, ½º¿þµ§, µ¶Àϰú °°Àº ¿À·£ µ¿¸Í±¹µé¿¡ Àû¿ëÇÏ´Â ´ë½Å ºÏÇÑ ¹®Á¦¸¦ ÇØ°áÇϴµ¥ »ç¿ëÇ϶ó°í Ã˱¸Çß½À´Ï´Ù.
[³ìÃë:Äコ ÀÇ¿ø] ¡°It would be a better of use of our economic tools to focus more on China and our shared goals of reducing the threat of conflict and tensions with North Korea than it¡¯s it to use tariffs against our long standing allies like Canada, Sweden, and Germany. What I think President Trump¡¯s trade policy is doing right now is dividing us from our important allies and causing tensions. Why would we slap steel and aluminum tariffs on countries that share our goals? And why would we not use secondary sanctions to ensure that North Korea continues to feel the bite?¡±
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[³ìÃë:Á¸½¼ ÀÇ¿ø] ¡°I¡¯ve said repeatedly and currently that in a short term, our top priority in our relationship with China should be to encourage them to fully support maintaining the maximum pressure campaign. This is the only way we are going to solve this problem.¡±
À̰͸¸ÀÌ ºÏÇÑ ¹®Á¦¸¦ ÇØ°áÇÏ´Â À¯ÀÏÇÑ ¹æ¹ýÀ̶ó´Â °Ì´Ï´Ù. Á¸½¼ ÀÇ¿øÀº ±×·¯¸é¼ ¹Ì±¹ÀÌ Áß±¹°ú ¼·Î ¡®À© À©¡¯ÇÏ´Â Àå±âÀû Çù·ÂÀ» ±¸ÃàÇÏ°í ½ÍÁö¸¸ ±×·¯±â À§Çؼ± Áß±¹ÀÌ ±ÔÄ¢À» ÁؼöÇØ¾ß ÇÑ´Ù°í ¸»Çß½À´Ï´Ù.
[³ìÃë:Á¸½¼ ÀÇ¿ø] ¡°I want to create a long term cooperative win-win situation with China but they would have to follow the rules and the best way is to force them to do that, they are not doing it voluntarily, we have to force them. We need a coalition of the rest of the world to demand it.¡±
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[³ìÃë:Äɳ׵ð ÀÇ¿ø¡°I do think that China has a big role to play here and I think that China can help us denuclearize North Korea if it wants to. I think if you took Xi Jinping, President of China, and turned him upside down and shook it, Kim Jong Un will fall out of his pocket. I think he has an enormous influence over it.¡±
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