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[Æ®·³ÇÁ ´ëÅë·É] ¡°Basically, they wanted the sanctions lifted in their entirety, and we couldn¡¯t do that. They were willing to denuke a large portion of the areas that we wanted, but we couldn¡¯t give up all of the sanctions for that¡¦ We had to walk away from that particular suggestion.¡±
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[¾ÆÀÎÈ¥ Àü Ưº¸] ¡°I think both sides made very significant errors. Kim Jong Un may have been persuaded by his advisors that President Trump needed a deal so badly that he would accept the one-sided deal that they offered at Hanoi. That was a mistake by Kim Jong Un. I think President Trump made a mistake by counter-offering his own unacceptable proposal.¡±
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[ÇÇÃ÷ÆÐÆ®¸¯ Àü ºÎÂ÷°üº¸] ¡°What it was offering was just a portion of its nuclear weapons infrastructure and the oldest portion of it at Yongbyon. Some people think that the Yongbyon facilities are so old that they don¡¯t have much serviceable life left to them anyway.¡±
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[¾ÆÀÎÈ¥ Àü Ưº¸] ¡°I¡¯m told that Steve Biegun who is the U.S. representative, made some interesting new proposals but the N Koreans didn¡¯t react to them. Instead they read out a statement that had been written in advance in Pyongyang rejecting any new ideas. So they didn¡¯t come with any serious intention to negotiate.¡±
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[¼¼À̸ð¾î Àü Á¶Á¤°ü] ¡°You¡¯ll remember the Trump administration offered over and over again after Hanoi to start working-level talks. And there were meeting in Stockholm that lasted less than a day and fell apart.¡±
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[ÇÇÃ÷ÆÐÆ®¸¯ Àü Â÷°üº¸] ¡°Yes Of Course. I think what was put on the table at Hanoi has to be re-examined. It won¡¯t be the deal that either side sought. But the fact that they were putting something on the table meant that there are the elements of a deal.¡±
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[µð¸¶Áö¿À ¿¬±¸¿ø] ¡°A good way forward would be to try to revisit the Yongbyon agreement. The N Koreans insisted that we lift the five major economic sets of sanctions. I think that was the starting point for them. So I think revisiting the ingredients of that deal that were left on the table in Hanoi, we should try to revive them, work them out in advance and if we¡¯re able to, that would be perhaps an opportunity for a first summit¡¦¡±
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[Æ®·³ÇÁ ´ëÅë·É] ¡°Basically, they wanted the sanctions lifted in their entirety, and we couldn¡¯t do that. They were willing to denuke a large portion of the areas that we wanted, but we couldn¡¯t give up all of the sanctions for that¡¦ We had to walk away from that particular suggestion.¡±
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[¾ÆÀÎÈ¥ Àü Ưº¸] ¡°I think both sides made very significant errors. Kim Jong Un may have been persuaded by his advisors that President Trump needed a deal so badly that he would accept the one-sided deal that they offered at Hanoi. That was a mistake by Kim Jong Un. I think President Trump made a mistake by counter-offering his own unacceptable proposal.¡±
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[ÇÇÃ÷ÆÐÆ®¸¯ Àü ºÎÂ÷°üº¸] ¡°What it was offering was just a portion of its nuclear weapons infrastructure and the oldest portion of it at Yongbyon. Some people think that the Yongbyon facilities are so old that they don¡¯t have much serviceable life left to them anyway.¡±
ºÏÇÑÀÌ Á¦¾ÈÇÑ ¿µº¯Àº ÇÙ ½Ã¼³ÀÇ ÀϺÎÀÏ »ÓÀÌÀÚ °¡Àå ¿À·¡µÈ ºÎºÐÀ̶ó´Â °ÍÀÔ´Ï´Ù. Àϰ¢¿¡¼´Â ¿µº¯ÀÇ ½Ã¼³µéÀÌ ³Ê¹« ³ëÈÄÇØ »ý¸íÀÌ ¾ó¸¶ ³²Áö ¾Ê¾Ò´Ù°í º»´Ù°í, ÇÇÃ÷ÆÐÆ®¸¯ Àü Â÷°üº¸´Â ÁöÀûÇß½À´Ï´Ù.
ÇϳëÀÌ Á¤»óȸ´ã ÀÌÈÄ ±× ÇØ 10¿ù ½º¿þµ§ ½ºÅåȦ¸§¿¡¼ ¹Ì-ºÏ ½Ç¹«Çù»óÀÌ ¿·ÈÁö¸¸ °ð¹Ù·Î °á·Ä·Î ³¡³µ½À´Ï´Ù. ´ç½Ã ½º¿þµ§ ½ºÅåȦ¸§¿¡¼ ¹Ì±¹°ú Çù»ó¿¡ ³ª¼¹´ø ºÏÇÑ Ãø ±è¸í±æ ¼øÈ¸´ë»çÀÔ´Ï´Ù.
[±è¸í±æ ´ë»ç] ¡°¹Ì±¹Àº ±×µ¿¾È À¯¿¬ÇÑ Á¢±Ù°ú »õ·Î¿î ¹æ¹ý, â¹ßÀûÀÎ ÇØ°áÃ¥À» ½Ã»çÇÏ¸ç ±â´ë°¨À» ÇѲ¯ ºÎÇ®°Ô ÇßÀ¸³ª ¾Æ¹« °Íµµ µé°í ³ª¿ÀÁö ¾Ê¾ÒÀ¸¸ç, ¿ì¸®¸¦ Å©°Ô ½Ç¸Á½Ã۰í Çù»ó ÀÇ¿åÀ» ¶³¾î¶ß·È½À´Ï´Ù.¡±
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[¾ÆÀÎÈ¥ Àü Ưº¸] ¡°I¡¯m told that Steve Biegun who is the U.S. representative, made some interesting new proposals but the N Koreans didn¡¯t react to them. Instead they read out a statement that had been written in advance in Pyongyang rejecting any new ideas. So they didn¡¯t come with any serious intention to negotiate.¡±
ÇÏÁö¸¸ ºÏÇÑÀº ÀÌ¿¡ ¹ÝÀÀÇÏÁö ¾Ê¾Ò°í, Æò¾ç¿¡¼ ¹Ì¸® ÀÛ¼ºÇؿ ¼º¸í¸¸ Àоú´Ù´Â °ÍÀÔ´Ï´Ù. ¾ÆÀÌÈ¥ Àü Ưº¸´Â ºÏÇÑÀÌ ½ºÅåȦ¸§ ȸ´ã¿¡¼ ÁøÁöÇÏ°Ô Çù»óÇÏ·Á´Â ÀÇÁö¸¦ °®°í ÀÖÁö ¾Ê¾Ò´Ù°í ¸»Çß½À´Ï´Ù.
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[¼¼À̸ð¾î Àü Á¶Á¤°ü] ¡°You¡¯ll remember the Trump administration offered over and over again after Hanoi to start working-level talks. And there were meeting in Stockholm that lasted less than a day and fell apart.¡±
ÇϳëÀÌ È¸´ã ÀÌÈÄ ´ëÈÀÇ ÀÚ¸®·Î ³ª¿À¶ó°í Æ®·³ÇÁ ÇàÁ¤ºÎ°¡ °Åµì ¿äûÇßÁö¸¸ ºÏÇÑÀº ½ºÅåȦ¸§ ȸ´ã¿¡¸¸ ³ªÅ¸³µ°í À̸¶Àúµµ °á·Ä·Î ³¡³µ´Ù´Â °ÍÀÔ´Ï´Ù.
¼¼À̸ð¾î Àü Á¶Á¤°üÀº Á¦Àç¿Í Äڷγª, ÀÚ¿¬ÀçÇØ·Î ½É°¢ÇÑ °æÁ¦³À» °Þ°í ÀÖ´Â ºÏÇÑÀÌ ¹Ì±¹ÀÇ »õ·Î¿î Çù»ó Á¦¾È¿¡ ÀÀÇÒ °ÍÀ¸·Î »ý°¢ÇÑ´Ù°í ¸»Çß½À´Ï´Ù. ±×·¯¸é¼, À̸¦ È®ÀÎÇÒ ¼ö ÀÖ´Â ¹æ¹ýÀº ¹Ì±¹ÀÌ ¸ÕÀú Á¦¾ÈÀ» ÇØ º¸´Â °ÍÀ̶ó°í ¸»Çß½À´Ï´Ù.
ÇÇÃ÷ÆÐÆ®¸¯ Àü ºÎÂ÷°üº¸´Â Çù»óÀÌ Àç°³µÇ¸é ¡°ÇϳëÀÌ¿¡¼ Çù»ó Å×ÀÌºí¿¡ ¿Ã¶ú´ø ¾È°ÇµéÀ» ¹°·Ð ´Ù½Ã Á¡°ËÇØ¾ß ÇÑ´Ù¡±°í ¸»Çß½À´Ï´Ù.
[ÇÇÃ÷ÆÐÆ®¸¯ Àü Â÷°üº¸] ¡°Yes Of Course. I think what was put on the table at Hanoi has to be re-examined. It won¡¯t be the deal that either side sought. But the fact that they were putting something on the table meant that there are the elements of a deal.¡±
¹Ì±¹°ú ºÏÇÑÀÌ ÇϳëÀÌ¿¡¼ Á¦½ÃÇÑ Á¶ÇÕ°ú´Â ´Þ¶ó¾ß ÇϰÚÁö¸¸, ÇϳëÀÌ È¸´ã ´ç½Ã ¾ð±ÞÇÑ °³º° ¿ä¼ÒµéÀº ´Ù½Ã °ËÅäÇØ¾ß ÇÑ´Ù´Â °ÍÀÔ´Ï´Ù. ¾È°ÇÀ¸·Î ¿Ã¶ó¿Ô´Ù´Â ÀÚü°¡ ÇÕÀÇ¿¡ À̸¦ °¡´É¼ºÀÌ ÀÖ´Ù´Â °ÍÀ̱⠶§¹®À̶ó´Â ¼³¸íÀÔ´Ï´Ù.
ÇÇÃ÷ÆÐÆ®¸¯ Àü ºÎÂ÷°üº¸´Â ¹Ì±¹¿¡ °¡Àå ÁÁÀº ÇÕÀÇ´Â ¾Æ´Ï°ÚÁö¸¸ ¿µº¯¿¡ ´Ù¸¥ ½Ã¼³µéÀ» ´õÇÑ ¡®¿µº¯ Ç÷¯½º ¾ËÆÄ¡¯¿Í ÇöÀå °ËÁõ Á¶Ä¡, ±×¸®°í ÀÌ¿¡ »óÀÀÇÑ ¹Ì±¹ÀÇ ÀϺΠÁ¦Àç ÇØÁ¦ Á¶Ä¡¸¦ »ý°¢ÇØ º¼ ¼ö ÀÖ´Ù°í ¸»Çß½À´Ï´Ù.
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[µð¸¶Áö¿À ¿¬±¸¿ø] ¡°A good way forward would be to try to revisit the Yongbyon agreement. The N Koreans insisted that we lift the five major economic sets of sanctions. I think that was the starting point for them. So I think revisiting the ingredients of that deal that were left on the table in Hanoi, we should try to revive them, work them out in advance and if we¡¯re able to, that would be perhaps an opportunity for a first summit¡¦¡±
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[°¥·çÄ¡ Àü Ư»ç] ¡°I have nothing against summitry as an element or a stage or a phase in engagement. I just don¡¯t think you can replace the hard work of negotiation, of putting both sides¡¯ agendas on the table and working out a compromise which is I think what a negotiation essentially is.¡±
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