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±âÀÚ) ±¹¹æºÎ ÀεµÅÂÆò¾ç ¾Èº¸ ´ã´ç Â÷°üº¸·Î¼ ºÏÇѰúÀÇ ºñÇÙÈ ½Ç¹«Çù»ó¿¡ Âü¿©Çϼ̴µ¥¿ä. ¹ÙÀ̵ç Á¤ºÎÀÇ ´ëºÏ Á¤Ã¥À» ¾î¶»°Ô Æò°¡ÇϽʴϱî?
½´¶óÀ̹ö Àü Â÷°üº¸) ¡°I¡¯d like to see more clarity about what their policy actually is. I think they¡¯ve tried to define what it¡¯s not. It¡¯s not strategic patience from the past, it¡¯s not the high-level engagement of the Trump administration. But I think we still lack a little bit of clarity in terms of their approach. I do support the strengthening of the relationship with S Korea and I think the statement from President Moon¡¯s visit was an excellent one but I think we still need to understand a little better and in greater specificity what the policy will be.¡±
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½´¶óÀ̹ö Àü Â÷°üº¸) ¡°It¡¯s always difficult to speculate what¡¯s happening inside N Korea, what might be the specific motivations of Kim Jong Un. I suppose it¡¯s not mutually exclusive to say that there¡¯s political objectives as well as military objectives. I think politically they¡¯re prone to use provocation as a substitute for traditional diplomacy and I think they¡¯re trying to get attention. I think on the military side, these tests help them develop better capabilities and we¡¯ve seen consistently they¡¯re seeking to improve their ballistic missiles and now hypersonic missiles.¡±
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±âÀÚ) 2019³â 10¿ù ½ºÅåȦ¸§ ºñÇÙÈ ½Ç¹«Çù»óÀÌ °á·ÄµÈ ÀÌ·¡ ºÏÇÑÀº ¹Ì±¹ÀÇ ´ëÈ Á¦¾È¿¡ ÀÀÇÏÁö ¾Ê°í ÀÖ½À´Ï´Ù. ¹Ì±¹Àº ÀÌ·± ºÏÇÑ¿¡ ´ëÇØ ¾î¶² Á¢±Ù¹ýÀ» ÃëÇØ¾ß ÇÒ±î¿ä?
½´¶óÀ̹ö Àü Â÷°üº¸) ¡°I think what the Trump administration started with, maximum pressure was effective. I do think the Trump administration and specifically the President himself, by going to leader-to-leader meeting level before the full impact of maximum pressure perhaps was a bit hasty. So I think some return to something resembling maximum pressure and brining as many countries on board as possible, although I think it¡¯s going to be difficult to have full cooperation from the Chiense.¡±
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±âÀÚ) 2018³â ¸¶ÀÌÅ© ÆûÆä¿À Àü ±¹¹«Àå°üÀÇ µÎ Â÷·Ê ¹æºÏ¿¡ µ¿ÇàÇß°í, µÎ Â÷·ÊÀÇ ¹ÌºÏ Á¤»óȸ´ã°ú ½Ç¹«È¸´ã¿¡ ¸ðµÎ Âü¿©Çϼ̽À´Ï´Ù. ±èÁ¤Àº À§¿øÀåÀÌ Æ®·³ÇÁ ´ëÅë·ÉÀ» ¸¸³¯ ¶§ ÁøÁöÇÏ°Ô ÇÙ Æ÷±â¸¦ °í·ÁÇß´Ù°í ÆÇ´ÜÇϽʴϱî?
½´¶óÀ̹ö Àü Â÷°üº¸) ¡°Well again, it¡¯s difficult to get inside his mind. I think what we can tell from the working-level negotiations, the negotiations first led by Ambassador Kim and then envoy Biegun that I participated in, in retrospect it doesn¡¯t look as though the N Korean team came prepared to discuss denuclearization in a serious way particularly in the lead-up to Hanoi, where we were quite serious about striking a deal. And they were prepared to talk about nothing other than sanctions relief. They didn¡¯t even bring appropriate personnel to talk about denuclearization.¡±
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½´¶óÀ̹ö Àü Â÷°üº¸) ¡°Yes. That¡¯s what I was referring to in terms of not having the appropriate personnel to talk about denuclearization at a deeper level. I think that¡¯s historically been one of the challenges. Their negotiations have been led by either Ministry of Foreign Affairs or intelligence services or political department but not technical experts, whereas our team was full of people from the Department of Energy, from the intelligence community, from myself Department of Defense who are prepared to talk about every aspect of this. So to have a negotiating partner who is not fully informed of the technical issues, not fully empowered, is historically one of the challenges and certainly one that we also ran into.¡±
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±âÀÚ) ¹ÙÀ̵ç Á¤ºÎ´Â ½Ì°¡Æ÷¸£ ÇÕÀǸ¦ Åä´ë·Î ÁøÀüÀ» ÀÌ·ê Áغñ°¡ µÅ ÀÖ´Ù°í ¹àÇû½À´Ï´Ù. ±èÁ¤Àº À§¿øÀåÀÌ ÇÕÀǹ®¿¡ ¼¸íÇÑ ÀÌ·¡ À̸¦ Áöų ÀÇÁö¸¦ º¸¿´³ª¿ä?
½´¶óÀ̹ö Àü Â÷°üº¸) ¡°No. I think there was a little bit of movement on the return of missing personnel¡¯s remains. We had one major repatriation, but beyond that the other areas, very little movement. And in fact after the Singapore summit, our first engagement with N Korea quickly revealed that Kim Jong Un¡¯s signature under a commitment to move forward toward denuclearization meant very little in real terms and in practice.¡±
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±âÀÚ) Àӱ⸦ 4°³¿ù ³²±ä ¹®ÀçÀÎ Çѱ¹ ´ëÅë·ÉÀº ¡®Á¾Àü¼±¾ð¡¯ ÃßÁø ÀÇÁö¸¦ °Åµì ¹àÈ÷°í ÀÖ½À´Ï´Ù. ¡®Á¾Àü¼±¾ð¡¯ÀÌ Çö½ÃÁ¡¿¡ ¾î¶² È¿¿ë¼ºÀÌ ÀÖÀ»±î¿ä?
½´¶óÀ̹ö Àü Â÷°üº¸) ¡°Well the statement itself is not particularly useful because it¡¯s really a statement of objective reality that there has not been active combat since 1953. The real question is why would N Korea agree to it? I think from our discussions and negotiations what we understand is an end-of-war declaration to them means that our alliance should be dramatically curtailed. U.S. forces should not be on the Korean peninsula and so on and so forth. So I¡¯m less concerned about the statement itself, and more concerned about what N Korea thinks such a statement would mean in implementation.¡±
Á¾Àü¼±¾ð ÀÚü´Â Ưº°È÷ È¿¿ë¼ºÀÌ ¾ø½À´Ï´Ù. 1953³â ÀÌ·¡ ½ÇÁúÀûÀÎ ÀüÅõ°¡ ¾ø¾ú´Ù´Â °´°üÀûÀÎ ½Ç»óÀ» ¼±¾ðÇÏ´Â °ÍÀ̴ϱî¿ä. Áß¿äÇÑ Áú¹®Àº ¡®ºÏÇÑÀÌ ÀÌ·¯ÇÑ ¼±¾ð¿¡ µ¿ÀÇÇÒ ÀÌÀ¯°¡ ¹«¾ùÀ̳ġ±´Â °ÍÀÔ´Ï´Ù. Áö³ Çù»óÀ» ÅëÇØ ¿ì¸®°¡ ¾Ë ¼ö ÀÖ´Â °ÍÀº ºÏÇÑ¿¡ Á¾Àü¼±¾ðÀ̶õ (¹ÌÇÑ) µ¿¸ÍÀÌ ±Þ°ÝÈ÷ Ãà¼ÒµÇ°í, ¹Ì±ºÀÌ Çѹݵµ¿¡ ÁÖµÐÇÏÁö ¸»¾Æ¾ß ÇÑ´Ù´Â ÀǹÌÀÔ´Ï´Ù. ³ª´Â ¼±¾ð ÀÚü¸¦ ¿ì·ÁÇϱ⺸´Ù´Â, ¼±¾ðÀ» ÀÌÇàÇÏ´Â ´Ü°è¿¡¼ ºÏÇÑÀÌ ¾î¶² »ý°¢À» °¡ÁúÁö¸¦ ¿ì·ÁÇÕ´Ï´Ù.
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½´¶óÀ̹ö Àü Â÷°üº¸) It¡¯s not clear to me that it would open any new doors. We certainly raised the possibility of an end-of-war declaration in our negotiations in the previous administration, and as soon as we should an interest and started to initiate proposals, the N Koreans quickly lost interest. So I don¡¯t see that it¡¯s something they value highly unless they would see it as potential leverage to again diminish our alliance and seek a reduction of U.S. forces on the peninsula.
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±âÀÚ) Çѱ¹ Àϰ¢¿¡¼´Â ´ëºÏ Á¦Àç ¿Ïȸ¦ ÁÖÀåÇϰí ÀÖ½À´Ï´Ù. ÃÖ±Ù Çѱ¹ ¿Ü±³ºÎ »êÇÏ ±¹¸³¿Ü±³¿øÀÇ È«ÇöÀÍ ¿øÀåµµ Çѱ¹ ¾ð·Ð°úÀÇ ÀÎÅͺ信¼ ´ëºÏ Á¦Àç°¡ ¡®ºÏÇÑ¿¡ ÇÙ¹«±â °³¹ßÀÇ Á¤´ç¼ºÀ» ºÎ¿©ÇÑ´Ù¡¯°í ÇßÁÒ. ¾î¶»°Ô »ý°¢ÇϽʴϱî?
½´¶óÀ̹ö Àü Â÷°üº¸) ¡°I think the N Koreans are intent on gaining nuclear weapons period. And I think previous attempts to ease sanctions or provide incentives for denuclearization also failed and did not work. So I reject the notion that it¡¯s our sanctions that are promoting a nuclear program in N Korea or that¡¯s the reason that they¡¯re pursuing these weapons. I think pressure and continued sanction is the appropriate approach. I think there are a number of reasons. It¡¯s not just the nuclear program. It¡¯s the very repugnant nature of the regime and the human rights crisis that is created by the DPRK communist government and the leader, there are a number of reasons to keep sanctions in place, counter-proliferation and nonproliferation et cetera.¡±
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½´¶óÀ̹ö Àü Â÷°üº¸) ¡°I think we should return to a robust level of joint exercises that would be appropriate for the threat we face so that we can maintain the highest level of readiness. There¡¯s of course the further complication of Covid, which has also made more difficult in-person training and joint exercises. So once we feel as though the health conditions are safe enough, I think we should return to a full-level of exercises.¡±
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