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ºê·ç°Å °¨µ¶) ¡°This began with a very small and simple proposition from the person known as the mole. He approached me approximately 11 years ago with an idea about infiltrating Danish-North Korean friendship group¡¦¡±
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±âÀÚ) ¾à 10³âÀÇ ½Ã°£À» ´ÙÅ¥¸àÅ͸® Á¦ÀÛ¿¡ ÇÒ¾ÖÇÏ¼Ì´Ù°í ¸»¾¸Çϼ̴µ¥¿ä, °³ÀÎÀûÀΠƯº°ÇÑ µ¿±â´Â ¾øÀ¸¼Ì³ª¿ä?
ºê·ç°Å °¨µ¶) ¡°At that point of time, I had no idea that this would become a film about North Korea trying to circumvent sanctions¡¦But that is what happens when you do journalism.¡±
¡°Àú´Â ´ÙÅ¥¸àÅ͸® Á¦ÀÛÀÚÀÌÁö¸¸ ±âÀÚÀ̱⵵ ÇÕ´Ï´Ù. ´ç½Ã¿¡´Â ºÏÇÑÀÇ Á¦Àç ȸÇÇ ³ë·Â°ú (ºÒ¹ý) ¹«±â ÆÇ¸Å¿¡ °üÇÑ ´ÙÅ¥¸àÅ͸®°¡ µÉ °ÍÀ̶ó°ï »ý°¢ÇÏÁö ¸øÇß½À´Ï´Ù. ÇÏÁö¸¸ À̰ÍÀÌ Àú³Î¸®ÁòÀ» ±¸ÇöÇÏ´Ù º¸¸é ¹ß»ýÇÏ´Â ÀÏÀÌÁÒ.¡±

±âÀÚ) ´ÙÅ¥¸àÅ͸® ¡®Àẹ¡¯ÀÇ ÁÖ¿ä ³»¿ëÀº ¹«¾ùÀϱî¿ä?
ºê·ç°Å °¨µ¶) ¡°Eventually, we had to introduce a fake businessman, a person playing the part as an investor coming to Scandinavia. His name is Mr. James¡¦¡±
¡°ÀúÈñ´Â (³»ºÎ øÀÚ À̿ܿ¡µµ) ½ºÄ­µð³ªºñ¾Æ Áö¿ª¿¡ ¿Â ÅõÀÚÀÚ ¿ªÇÒÀ» ÇÒ °¡Â¥ »ç¾÷°¡¸¦ ¿µÀÔÇØ¾ß¸¸ Çߴµ¥, ±×ÀÇ À̸§Àº ¡®¹Ì½ºÅÍ Á¦ÀÓ½º¡¯ÀÔ´Ï´Ù. ³»ºÎ øÀÚ¿Í Á¦ÀÓ½º ¾¾´Â ºÏÇÑ °ü·á¿Í ¹«±â ÆÇ¸Å»óÀ» µ¿¾÷ÀÚ¿Í À¯·´°ú Áßµ¿ Áö¿ªÀÇ Á¶·ÂÀÚµé°ú ¿¬°áÇÏ´Â ¡®¹üÁË ³×Æ®¿öÅ©¡¯¸¦ ã¾Æ³»°í Ž»öÇß½À´Ï´Ù. ÀÌ´Â ±âº»ÀûÀ¸·Î ÀüºÎ ºÏÇÑ ´ç±¹ÀÌ ¿î¿µÇÏ´Â ¹«±â ÇÁ·Î±×·¥À» À§ÇÑ °ÍÀÔ´Ï´Ù. ¶Ç ±×µéÀÌ ³×Æ®¿öÅ©¸¦ Ž»öÇÏ´Â °úÁ¤¿¡¼­, ¹«±â ü°èÀÇ ¸ñ·ÏÀ» ³ª¿­ÇÑ Àμâ Ã¥ÀÚ¿Í °¡°ÝÇ¥±îÁö º¸¾ÒÀ» »Ó ¾Æ´Ï¶ó, ºÏÇÑÀÌ ÀÏ¹Ý ¹«±â¿Í ÷´Ü ¹«±â±îÁöµµ °³Àε鿡°Ô ÆÇ¸ÅÇÒ ¿ëÀǰ¡ ÀÖ´Ù´Â Á¡µµ ¹ß°ßÇß½À´Ï´Ù.¡±

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ºê·ç°Å °¨µ¶) ¡°First and foremost, I find it remarkable and extraordinary that a retired chef and a former criminal are capable of getting into ¡¦ Also, the film points towards that the sanctions are working. It's really hurting North Korea. They were desperate to find customers¡¦¡±
¡°¹«¾ùº¸´Ùµµ ÀºÅðÇÑ ¿ä¸®»ç¿Í Àü ¹üÁËÀÚ°¡ (ºÏÇÑ Á¤±ÇÀÌ ½ÇÇàÇÏ´Â ÀÏ¿¡) ÀáÀÔÇÒ ¼ö ÀÖ¾ú´Ù´Â °ÍÀÌ ÁÖ¸ñÇÒ ¸¸ÇÏ¸ç ³î¶ó¿î ÀÏÀ̶ó°í º¾´Ï´Ù. ¶Ç ÀÌ ´ÙÅ¥¸àÅ͸®´Â Á¦Àç°¡ ÀÛµ¿Çϰí ÀÖ´Ù´Â Á¡À» ÁöÀûÇϰí ÀÖ½À´Ï´Ù. Á¦Àç°¡ Á¤¸» ºÏÇÑÀ» ÇØÄ¡°í ÀÖ´Ù´Â °Ì´Ï´Ù. ºÏÇÑ Á¤±ÇÀº ¹«±â¸¦ ±¸ÀÔÇÒ °í°´À» ã´Âµ¥ ÇÊ»çÀûÀ̾úÀ¸¸ç, ¹«±â °Å·¡»ó Áß ÇÑ ¸íÀº ¿ì¸®¿¡°Ô °í°´À» ãÀ» ¼ö ÀÖµµ·Ï Á¦¹ß µµ¿Í´Þ¶ó°í ¸»ÇÑ Àûµµ ÀÖ½À´Ï´Ù.¡±

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ºê·ç°Å °¨µ¶) ¡°I¡¯d say that North Korea is willing to sell very advanced, very powerful weapon systems to private persons is a big revelation, and also obtaining proof of North Korea having developed brand new products¡¦¡±
¡°ºÏÇÑÀÌ ¸Å¿ì ¹ßÀüµÈ, ¸Å¿ì °­·ÂÇÑ ¹«±â ü°è¸¦ °³Àο¡°Ô ±â²¨ÀÌ ÆÇ¸ÅÇϰڴٴ °ÍÀº Áß´ëÇÑ Æø·Î¶ó°í »ý°¢ÇÕ´Ï´Ù. ¶Ç ºÏÇÑÀÌ ¸Å¿ì Á¤±³ÇÑ ¾ÆÁÖ »õ·Î¿î (¹«±â) »óǰÀ» °³¹ßÇϰí ÀÖ´Ù´Â Áõ°Åµµ ȹµæÇß½À´Ï´Ù. ÀÌ ºÎºÐÀÌ Áß¿äÇÏ´Ù°í º¾´Ï´Ù.¡±

±âÀÚ) ÇöÀå¿¡¼­ ºÏÇÑ ´ç±¹ÀÇ Á¦Àç ȸÇÇ ½Ãµµ Á¤È²À» ÃÔ¿µÇÏ´Â °úÁ¤ Áß¿¡ ¾î·Á¿òÀº ¾øÀ¸¼Ì³ª¿ä?
ºê·ç°Å °¨µ¶) ¡°Meeting with North Korean arms dealers in China or Uganda or Cambodia in secret is a dangerous and risky thing to do. Of course, it a cause for concern¡¦¡±
¡°Áß±¹, ¿ì°£´Ù, įº¸µð¾Æ µîÁö¿¡¼­ ºÏÇÑ ¹«±â»óµé°ú ºñ¹Ð¸®¿¡ ¸¸³ª´Â °ÍÀº À§ÇèÇÑ ÀÏÀ̰í, ¹°·Ð ¿ì·ÁÇÒ ¸¸ÇÑ »çÇ×ÀÔ´Ï´Ù. ¶Ç ³»ºÎ øÀÚ(¶ó¸£¼¾)°¡ Á¶¼±Ä£¼±Çùȸ º»»ç »ç¹«½Ç¿¡¼­ ¾Ë·¹Çѵå·Î Ä«¿À µ¥ º£³ë½º Çùȸ ȸÀå°ú ´ëÈ­¸¦ Çϰí ÀÖ¾ú´Âµ¥, »ç¹«½Ç¿¡ ¼û°ÜÁø Ä«¸Þ¶ó¿Í ¸¶ÀÌÅ©°¡ ÀÖ´ÂÁö¸¦ °¨ÁöÇÏ´Â µµÃ» °¨Áö±â°¡ ÀÖ¾ú´ø »ç·Êµµ ÀÖ½À´Ï´Ù. µû¶ó¼­ ³»ºÎ øÀÚ°¡ ¸ö ¾ÈÀÇ ±â°è¸¦ ÄÑ´Â ¼ø°£ µµÃ» °¨Áö±â°¡ ½ÅÈ£¸¦ º¸³½ °ÅÁÒ. ³»ºÎ øÀÚ´Â ½ÅÈ£°¡ ´Ù¸¥ ¿äÀÎÀ¸·Î º¸³»Áö´Â °ÍÀ̶ó°í °£½ÅÈ÷ ¼³¸íÇß°í, Àû¹ßµÇÁö ¾Ê¾Ò½À´Ï´Ù. ÇÏÁö¸¸ Á¤¸» ¾Æ½½¾Æ½½ÇÑ »óȲÀ̾úÁÒ.¡±

±âÀÚ) ½º¿þµ§ ÁÖÀç ºÏÇÑ ´ë»ç°üÀÌ ´ÙÅ¥¸àÅ͸®°¡ Á¶À۵ǾúÀ¸¸ç ºÏÇÑ ´ç±¹À» ºñ¹æÇϱâ À§ÇÑ ¸ñÀûÀ¸·Î Á¦À۵Ǿú´Ù´Â ¼º¸íÀ» ¹ßÇ¥Çß½À´Ï´Ù. ÀÌ¿¡ ´ëÇÑ ¹ÝÀÀÀº ¹«¾ùÀΰ¡¿ä?
ºê·ç°Å °¨µ¶) ¡°I would say my documentary speaks for itself. I stand by my journalism. I consider the criticism from the North Korean embassy in Stockholm to be, frankly speaking, absurd.¡±
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±âÀÚ) ½º¿þµ§°ú µ§¸¶Å© Á¤ºÎ°¡ À̹ø ´ÙÅ¥¸àÅ͸®¿¡ °üÇØ Áö³­ÁÖ ¼º¸íÀ» ³»°í, À¯¿£°ú À¯·´¿¬ÇÕ¿¡ ¹®Á¦¸¦ Á¦±âÇÒ °ÍÀ̶ó°í ¸»Çß½À´Ï´Ù. ¸¸¾à À¯¿£ ¾Èº¸¸® »êÇÏ ´ëºÏÁ¦ÀçÀ§¿øÈ¸°¡ ´ÙÅ¥¸àÅ͸®¿¡¼­ ¹àÇôÁø Á¦Àç ȸÇÇ Á¤È²¿¡ °üÇØ Á¶»ç¸¦ ½ÃÀÛÇÑ´Ù¸é, ÇùÁ¶ÇÒ ÀÇÇâÀÌ ÀÖÀ¸½Å°¡¿ä?
ºê·ç°Å °¨µ¶) ¡°Yes, most definitely. And I have already talked to UN. And I am willing to do so¡¦ We are in dialogue about sharing our materials with UN North Korea panels.¡±
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ºê·ç°Å °¨µ¶) ¡°Well, yes. As far as I know, it's the first film where you actually get to see how North Korean arms dealers and officials meet with foreign actors or foreign people discussing weapons deals and transportation of weapons. That is remarkable and extraordinary.¡±
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