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[³ìÃë: °íµç â º¯È£»ç] ¡°I think the significance is that the US is now starting to pay attention to some serious human rights, and other problems in South Korea. We're no longer ignoring them...This I think is going to be the focus of the hearings...This is an issue of human rights and an issue of democracy and Moon Jae-in has been attacking democratic institutions in South Korea. So, South Korea's democracy is under attack by its own president.¡±
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[³ìÃë: °íµç â º¯È£»ç] ¡°It was reversing decades of democratization. When Moon Jae-in was inaugurated, he said he was going to push South Korea further toward democracy, but what he has done is he has pushed South Korea towards North Korea's definition of democracy and away from what everybody else thinks about what the term means.¡±
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[³ìÃë: ±×·¹±× ½ºÄ®¶óÆ© HRNK »ç¹«ÃÑÀå] ¡°These are all very good witnesses. They're great Americans to care about Korea as well. I think that the major significance of this hearing is that the United States does care about the state of democracy and freedom and human rights in South Korea. Because we are allies, sometimes things go right, sometimes things go wrong. And we feel free to speak up. That's what this is about nothing else. So, this is no problem to South Korea. This is rather an attempt to help out our friends, partners and allies.¡±
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[³ìÃë: ±×·¹±× ½ºÄ®¶óÆ© HRNK »ç¹«ÃÑÀå] ¡°I run the US Committee for Human Rights in North Korea, HRNK and every time I see that the voices of North Korean escapees are muffled, every time I see that North Korean human rights organizations are defunded, muffled or pressed, this is my issue. It's a very big issue...It's a very big reflection on the current state of South Korean democracy. I have been a student of South Korea for almost 31 years now. I love that country. And that's why I need to speak up. I came from Romania, which was just barely emerging from the depths of communist dictatorship at the time, and South Korea gave me a great opportunity which I still appreciate...You know, here in the United States, we kind of deal with our own issues but we're getting there. And, you know, we have to talk to our friends in South Korea.¡±
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[³ìÃë: ·Î¹öÆ® Å· Àü ±¹¹«ºÎ ºÏÇÑÀÎ±ÇÆ¯»ç] ¡°I think it reflects the concerns about the legislation about its intent and about its likely effect. I would think that there is some concern from members of Congress about the legislation, it's gotten a lot of attention. It's been controversial. And I think there's members of the Tom Lantos Human Rights Commission who were interested in having some of these issues aired. It provides a good opportunity to look into what's going on.¡±
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[³ìÃë: ·Î¹öÆ® Å· Àü ±¹¹«ºÎ ºÏÇÑÀÎ±ÇÆ¯»ç] ¡°I'm not sure it's the most effective way of doing it...Their claims that sending material into North Korea via balloon is dangerous and that kind of thing. There is no evidence that I have seen that suggests in fact that there is a danger of sending materials via balloon...There is information that comes into North Korea by that means, and unless there's better evidence than I've seen, the argument that it's unsafe doesn't seem to me to be terribly sound.¡±
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[³ìÃë: ·Î¹öÆ® Å· Àü ±¹¹«ºÎ ºÏÇÑÀÎ±ÇÆ¯»ç] ¡°The membership of the Tom Lantos Human Rights Council is are all members of the US House of Representatives. These are all congressmen who sit on these panels, and although the Tom Lantos Human Rights Commission does not have legislative authority, the members who sit on that panel and who attend and who have called this hearing are people who are on all of the various committees of the House of Representatives.¡±
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[³ìÃë: ·Î¹öÆ® Å· Àü ±¹¹«ºÎ ºÏÇÑÀÎ±ÇÆ¯»ç] ¡°Furthermore, one of the things that they are doing is using this as a vehicle to call attention to the problem. And when members of Congress, whether they are sitting in a formal hearing, or whether they're having a Tom Lantos Human Rights Commission public hearing, they're talking about these issues, they're raising the problems, and they're educating their colleagues about what's going on. I would not underestimate the significance of this kind of hearing.¡±
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[³ìÃë: ±×·¹±× ½ºÄ®¶óÆ© HRNK »ç¹«ÃÑÀå] ¡°They are true friends of the US-South Korea alliance, that's number one. Number two, I think this is a bit of disrespectful comments they made. It's a very important and a very serious matter. So, it's disconcerting to hear this comment. The Lantos Commission has done so much great work dealing with human rights all over the world.¡±
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[³ìÃë: ±×·¹±× ½ºÄ®¶óÆ© HRNK »ç¹«ÃÑÀå] ¡°All of us have to remember the name of Tom Lantos. He was the only Holocaust survivor to sit in the US Congress. So, every time we speak about the Tom Lantos Commission, I think we have to remember his legacy. We have to remember who we are as democratic countries—respect human rights. We have to remember that we made a promise that the Holocaust will never happen again. Again, Tom Lantos was a survivor and there is a slow motion Holocaust happening in North Korea right now. So in my view, it is a very serious matter.¡±
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